Showing posts with label Robert Downey Jr. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Robert Downey Jr. Show all posts

Friday, September 13, 2013

The Road to the Avengers: The Avengers (2012)

Agent Coulson is dead! Long live Agent Coulson!
The first time I watched this movie I took it all in and mostly thought about everything that had been left out and hoped might make it's way into some future Avengers movie. You know, like Dr. Henry Pym and Janet Van Dyne (leaving out Vision, Scarlet Witch, Tigra and the Falcon for the time being). Now, I know that the sequel deals with Ultron which must include Pym and possibly the Vision, depending on how they spin the tale. I wonder if the will go the X-Men route and introduce new team members each time because then I guess I'm okay with the ones that have been left out because you can add in Pym and Van Dyne in number two. Now that I think about it, the Hulk is good and all, but what about She-Hulk? She is way cooler, plus instant cross-over with the rumored reboot of the Fantastic Four, which I guess we need...because heaven's forbid we should accept mediocre sales and mediocre special effects. If they had given the Fantastic 4 movies the same level of attention (to be read as "budget") that they did the Avengers and it's prequels, we would already have 3 of them and a She-Hulk spin-off movie.
The other thing the movie missed, and in it's defense very few movies tie-in other movies, was a super-powered Manhattan. Fury and the Counsel make references to other super heroes I don't know if you have read many Marvel comics, but when big things go down in New York City, Spiderman tends to turn up. And when really big things go down in the Big Apple, one or more X-Men tend to pop-up - not to mention that Beast left the X-Men to join the Avengers and could be a nice tie-in. These could have been cameos...who wouldn't love to see the latest actor playing Spiderman or hunky Hugh Jackman in a minute or two of this movie? I don't need to explain this to Whedon who did right for the X-Men for a bit and knows how the Marvel Universe works.
I have a confession to make. Let me just take a deep breath first. Okay. I liked Mark Rufallo as Dr. Banner. I tried not to, while trying to not hate the character just because it's Raffalo. Dammit. This happened to me a few years ago with Tom Cruise.
Whedon left something out of this movie that was in every single one of it's prequels - a hint at what is to come and what super heroes it might entail. Thanatos coming to earth for the sport of it is strongly implied, but I didn't see any references to specific heroes, and I was looking for them. Certainly the scene after the credits was entertaining and I think appropriate, but not helpful towards giving a hint.
The first time through, I thought they didn't give enough time to Captain America, and too much time to the Black Widow. This time through, I still think that they didn't give enough time to Captain America, but I liked that Black Widow was a key member of the team and proof that S/H/I.E.L.D. super spies are pretty much street level super heroes. So, who do you take away time from to give to Cap? No one. You add in 3 minutes to the movie. Are you listening Joss? You give him a minute and a half more on the helecarrier to counteract Tony Stark's tirade against him and team play and to discover and react to the "Phase Two" that Fury has in the works. And you give him a minute and a half more in the battle of Manhattan. You could maybe show some more fighting, but the best way to use this time, would be to show him acting as the commander - perhaps further orders to the first responders - but even more importantly, you show him saving/rescuing the bystanders both on the street and trapped in the buildings. What he needed was a chance to show that he is the opposite of Stark in many ways, but is already a super-hero both morally and physically. Can you think of a better answer to Starks statement that all Rogers is comes from a test tube? Show the mettle in the man, who wades in to the thick of battle, not because his ego says he can do anything, but because his conscious tells him that it is his duty to defend those that cannot defend themselves.
Of the six movies, this one is easily at the top of hte heat. I hope that Joss Whedon does more than just write and direct the second Avengers movie. I hope there are other super hero films in the works for him and his team. And I secretly hope that at some point one of them includes Warbird (who has Avengers ties of course).

The Avengers on IMDb

Thursday, September 12, 2013

The Road to the Avengers: Iron Man II (2010)

I got this one out of order too. It looks like the order should be - Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Captain America, Iron Man II, Thor, Might Avengers. But, the inclusion of Black Widow and Nick Fury such significant roles, not to mention agent Coulson of course, added to the fact that they are actually discussing the Avengers Initiative at the end of the film makes this the true prequel to the Avengers movie. I like to think of if like comic books, which is of course a propos, and that the Iron Man title put out there September issue and it's concurrent with the Thor September issue, even though they actually came out two weeks apart - you don't necessarily read them in chronological order.
I'm familiar with War Machine from the comics and the movie version is pretty cool. From what I've read of the comics, it's after Rhodes left the army but he kept the suit and has kind of become this mechanical angel of death and justice. Pretty wicked stuff and nothing like how he started out, but if they ever do a War Machine movie, which I would totally see, it's interesting to ponder if they might go there.
Ivan Venko, I have never heard of. His fondness for the energy whips and bring Russian reminds me of Omega Red who is an X-Men villain, and one of the few I might add, that can stand toe to toe with Wolverine and in some situations over power him (whips that are unbreakable and drain away energy). I'm a little confused by his methods, I get the whole wanting Stark to sufferer, but wouldn't it be more effective to go about it in a different manner? I mean the best way would be to make Iron Man obsolete, but not by going the super-villain route.
The Justin Hammer character is one from the comics, but I'm not familiar with him. He certainly seems slimey enough. I hope that he gets used again. Having someone who is trying to compete with and better Tony Stark is as satisfying as having someone who is trying to take on Iron Man.
I've been kind of rating and ranking these movies as I go, and it's hard to say for sure, but I like this one at least as well as I like the first Iron Man movie. It's rare in comic book movies, and movies in general for the sequel to be better than the first one. Not that it can't be done, and I think this might be an example of that. Of course, the movie is only good because we have the first one setting things up for us, so I'm going to call it a tie. The final prequel standings are, in order, the Iron Mans tied at #1, Captain America at #3, Thor at #4 and the Incredible Hulk at #5. They're all decent though and I have enjoyed watching them a second or third time as the case may be. Of cource I am looking forward to all the sequels, Iron Man 3 at the top of my list (it should be out on DVD before the holiday), Thor 2 hits theatres in November and while I can leave or take the Asgardians, I am excited to see Natalie Portman's character in Asgard, and we have the Captain America sequel coming out next Spring, and I think I am looking forward to this one the most and can't wait to see how they handle Cap in the present day.

Iron Man II on IMBd

Monday, August 26, 2013

The Road to the Avengers: Iron Man (2008)

Can you imagine how this film would have gone had they cast it differently? Perhaps you could have gotten some to do the Obidiah Stain character proud that wasn't Jeff Bridges like maybe Ron Perlman. But who could you get to play Pepper Potts? Maybe Charlize Theron. But what about Tony Stark? I can't think of anyone except Downey. Not Brad Pitt, because he's nto charismatic enough, though certainly a fine actor and handsome man. Marvel had already been burned by Ben Affleck in Diredevil (which isn't that bad of a movie). Matt Damon and Viggo Mortenson are great actors but like Brad Pitt are missing that little something. There is Jason Lee who has that kind of personal charisma to pull it off, but not the acting chops. Maybe, just maybe, you could have cast Aaron Eckhart as Tony Stark and pulled it off. He had some of that going on in the Dark Knight. There is one character that you know the actor can be replaced on, and that's the Colonel Rhodes character which saw Don Cheadle replace Terence Howard. So, the alternative cast is Aaron Eckhart as Tony Stark, Charlize Theron as Pepper Potts, Ron Perlman as Obidiah Stain and Don Cheadle as Colonel Rhodes. It might have been good. In an alternate universe that film was made, and if I ever perfect my Transdimensional Inducer Mechanism, aka T.I.M. I swear that I will report back with a full rundown.
In all of the super hero movies over the last few years that are based on comic books, almost none of the characters are as cool or as likeable in the films as in in the print media. Some are as good, like Ron Perlman as Hellboy or Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, and pretty much everyone in Watchmen. Out of all of them, there is only character that I like better in the movies, which is to say that I like him in the movies, but don't care for him so much in the comics, and that is Tony Stark. I would say that is about 75% due to Roberty Downey Jr. and about 25% to the writing.
When you think about it, Iron Man is almost Marvel's answer to Batman. I think the main difference is scope. Batman doesn't wear armor but he largely battles street thugs and super villains that are more about brains and schemes then about brute force. Iron Man on the other hand is all about taking on the big causes. In fact, the bigger the better. The other difference is how they approach the issue of being a super hero without any super powers, though both are arguably geniuses. Bruce Wayne turns himself into a weapon and makes do with retasking technology around him to work as the cool toys the Batman uses. Tony Stark on the other hand is always striving for the upper hand through superior tech and devotes his considerable intellect to solving the problem with technology much of which he invents as opposed to making himself a weapon. I think this is Marvel's answer to the problem posed by Detective Comics with their Batman. How can one man with nearly limitless resources but no super powers compete against super powered individuals and make a real difference in the battle against evil? Well, you build a super suit and you fight the good fight. DC, who mind you rolled Batman out some 25 years before Marvel debuted Iron Man, came to the conclusion that you make the man as hard as any man can possibly be. You make him physically hard, mentally hard and emotionally hard.
I'm on an Avengers Film Extravaganza now (though I still need to watch one more flick for the FFE) and I'm going to watch them in order which means that next up is the Hulk with Edward Norton followed by Iron Man II, Thor, Captain America and then the Avengers. I've only seen the Avengers one time so far, but I think not counting any change that may come about from a second watching, I think this is my favorite of the series. Though if the Avengers had included Natalie Portman instead of just showing a picture of her I might be telling a different story.

Iron Man on IMDb